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40.3.4 > 46 Will x give y to z?

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I haven't posted for some time, I need to gain some clarity before going into the holidays and was hoping I could get some help with my ongoing issues :brickwall:. Having won the parental order in July the only thing left unestablished is our sons inheritance but it's an ongoing struggle.

When separating from his wife in 2004, he provided a ½ a million-dollar home to his older children. In 2015 we sold our home and he spent that money (our sons’ inheritance) on his batch. He has chosen to leave that to all of his children and I think that’s unfair.

Will x give y to z?
That is, will my x give the batch to our son?

40.3.4 > 46

40 Release
To turn around and come back is good fortune. With a direction to go, Daybreak, good fortune.'
To 'release' is to liberate, to solve problems, to untie knots.

This sounds extremely positive. :D

Line 3 'Shouldering a burden while also riding in a carriage, Invites the arrival of bandits.
Constancy, shame.'

I think this is where he is now, while he has ignored his youngest son (burden) he’s flaunting the batch to friends and family. Perhaps I am the bandit, perhaps the legal system. If he continues he will be shamed as I could have but didn’t take half in our separation.

Line 4 'Releasing the thumbs also. Partners arrive, hence truth and confidence.'

Wilhelm says Deliver yourself from your great toe. Then the companion comes, and him you can trust.

I am hoping that he will release the need to be associated with his wife, other children and previous wealth. So our son can go to him and trust that he has his best interests at heart.

46 'Pushing upward, creating success from the source. Make use of seeing great people.

I don’t usually look at other threads until I’ve formed an opinion. While my opinion here would be positive. I note the transitional hex 32.4 46 “No game in the field.” Is not my favourite… at all lol.

:duh: Is there light or am I dreaming?

Am I right to take this stand against him? 47.5 > 40

I think so, “shows its subject continuously maintaining the virtue”. I haven’t taken my decision lightly and have spoken to friends, family and even a pastor about the situation and my decision.

How can I best move forward? And I got 47.5 > 40 again.

With Christmas coming and our sons 8th birthday, it will be our third without his father. It weighs heavily on me, though our son seems not to care.

I know you’re all probably busy but I’d really appreciate any insight anyone has on this. I assume he will contact crying to see our son and while it’s hard, I intend to say no. :weep:

Thanks all in advance <3

62.5>31

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Will Company Y hire me?

Hexagram 62.5 to 31

i feel very lost.

The Prince shoots him in a cave means what?

Please help.

Thinking about how the pair relates to my reading - 52UC

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I asked Yi when circumstances would begin to improve for me and received 52UC. This is one of the first times I can distinctly recall a pair really speaking to me in my direct circumstance. I went through a very shocking (51) and sad experience a couple of months ago, and the events that unfolded from that have been a struggle. I haven't been able to get my apartment rented, I haven't found someone to look after something important while I'm out of town for Christmas, etc. I feel that I've been taking a moderate amount of action, but nothing is moving. I feel very stuck.

When looking at my reading through the lens of the 51/52 pair, it seems that 52 would be describing the situation I am in now and not when my situation will begin to improve. I've also considered that maybe there is a combination of both-- that I'm in a 52 situation and that I need to become 52 myself so to speak. Seems counter-intuitive considering all that I need to do.

Any input on this? Not just my reading but also how others interpret pairs when they seem to apply to the question.

63.1.2.5 Saga with old flame popping up, me trying new action

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WARNING This is a bit of a Saga! ( & yet a potted history) :
Old flame that was then a friendship, then business colleague, Friends too, me having feelings though, always pop back up. it got very difficult this year & some arguments, things falling apart in his life & I got overinvolved, overwhelmed, confused, getting chewed up in the maelstrom, & getting reactive myself too. well, he just turned in May, seemed weird with me all the time, angry, distrustful (I suspect 3rd party in a business) We couldn't lift it back up the way we used to, then he argued with me, very mean & then the two of them combined to close the business, 3rd party tried to burn me in the business (36 a lot, then 33uc ) So then of course I was pulling back, but got pulled in trying to get out, asking for some money back... he was v stressed, suicidal, & I felt that, very dark, scared me, this pulled me right back in again, bit difficult for me, deep feelings, very hurtful for me when it stated falling back into the bad pattern again... & I cant stop him if he does get suicidal anyway! That's too much responsibility! & he has a therapist now anyway. Yeah so I've stepped right back - we have a double Pluto moon conjunction astrology, it's v hard to step back!
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Well this guy popped up on social media (44), I resisted the follow suggestion & profile looking, though *wanting* to so much, longing, the desire to reconnect very very strong. I'm often pulled /pushed towards him when big heavy stuff is about to happen in his life & I want to be there & support, I feel that pull so strongly, but I've been getting hurt by him, fire from him, coldness etc.
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I made a commitment to myself to step back & focus on me, on family until after the solstice (24uc), allow visitors, accepting only those who come willingly (8.5). I sort of copper plated it by emailing a love poem (though it is also about healing, yin/yang, anima healing animus), I really did mean the healing wishes & unconditional love in it, but I also knew that he could clam right down & not respond to me for a good while! Sort of meant it like a parting gift, or a little present, before I duck out for a while... (33, negotiating retreat peacefully, give a gift).
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Hexagram 44.1.2.5
Waiting for the melon 🍉, thinking I resisted temptation, I got into a huge situation trying to write about it, to post here. I composed a massive long spiel trying to explain about the situation & relationship (which I've dona again, but less jumbles this time!). It's actually seeming very complicated, or my feelings are about it, and about him! Hence stepping right back a few weeks ago (33uc step back from business… recent 27, 46, casts for me, then 23uc, lots of casts ending in 48, constant theme of 32 for me all this difficult year in relation to this deep connection, lots of 41 lately). Lots of hurt & confusion, love, loss, desire, fear; huge emotions awoke, very very late to bed, to sleep, I *accidentally* deleted it. (A good thing really! )
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After deleting it, 29.5 going to bed, images of me having filled up this gorge, deep canyon with water, emptied out my heart, pouring and pouring, massive massive amounts of water, like I I opened a stopper in my heart and this ocean came out! It felt like an unstoppable flow
But then it just stopped. I realized that I had just stopped it! (Line 5, full enough, full to the brim).
So I woke tired, feeling awful, though in my minds eye there is a peaceful deep chasm lake, water just still & deep, lapping the edges & soft waves in the wind, high in the mountains (rocks red, like Mars)blue sky , & I am seeing a boat, thinking, a boat would get me across to the other side.
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But I'm feeling sort of shocked, afraid, afraid of those arguments, & the depth of older wounds awoken… so I cast Yi: hexagram 12.1.6
Quote:

Line 1'Pulling up thatch grass, roots entangled, with more of its kind.Constancy, good fortune. Creating success.'
Quote:

Line 6'Overturning the block.Before, blocked. Afterwards, rejoicing.'
Which for me felt like 'yes I am feeling blocked, with this man! Blocked in following my heart, open the love & passion, flow with that, then he cuts me down, blocked in pulling back, hurt, anger, sense of panic, panic & push to reach out, very very strong pull, blocked in focusing on other things, being creative'. The message said to me - it's ok to feel blocked, things are full, you have pulled up something rich & deep.
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Images again of the water filled chasm, holding to my heart swimming amidst dark waters, deep waters so deep they barely reflect the sky & red rocks, but also images of him pushing me, dark, focused, passionate, he is pushing me in, pushing from behind, but I'm thinking 'haha yes but I can swim!' & he's getting hotter, pushing, but the waters are nice and cool.
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You see, I know he wants me to contact him, but he won't contact me himself first. I can feel it, but I've made a vow with myself, not to do that. Always having to contact has worn me down! It's too much, & I'm tired of it. Its that *pull*, something is going on, instincts are saying to contact him, Like he needs me, but theres a pattern that I am trying to shift & I have a lot of other stuff going on personally. Also, I have been thinking, it is easier to send love, good vibes, from a distance. I need distance & he knows where I am anyway!
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Instead I'm staying put where I am (hexagram 52 - keeping still) allowing myself time to feel & deal without initiating anything outside, responding to what comes, listening, without reacting or starting anything new off. With all this fullness, it seems as though there is plenty to harvest, much richness, lots to deal with! No need to bring more in, or enter into a situation where I'm the supplicant when I need to be empowered in my life.
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So I asked Yi about that sense of pressure from him, that intensifying push into the waters, feeling of blocked from flowing out, but the water is calm now, its just there. Feels like it's power, energy, feels contained, grand to swim. But the intensity of that push towards him is getting very intense :
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63.1.2.5 › 46
Line 2 Losing the carraige screen I get, my ego /daily self is not happy with these deeper emotions, but its OK, nothing is lost, no ground, no progress in myself with my inner journey. I'll be back on track soon?
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line 1 stands out to me, coming with the earlier sense of accepting the blockage with 12
Quote:

Line 1Breaking the wagon wheels the tail gets wet = no blame. Changes to (39) Obstruction. During any transition from completion to renewal the way forward can appear confusing. Change is often accompanied by mistakes or missteps. You can think that you are on cruise control and suddenly get a flat tire that stops you in your tracks. There is not any real harm, but you are warned that the path you were on is changing. Any obstacles you meet are simply slowing you down so that you can examine the proper way forward.
Yes this chimes with me because I really feel like I need to ponder this water, this emotion, raw, not necessarily directed yet... I don't know what way it should flow yet. I don't know what to do, but I don't want to do anything just yet (except delve with Yi ). I don't mind the wet tail, being emotional. I'm not sure that this is keeping still, but I am trying to retain a core of awareness within all this emotion! And not to act towards him, hold the course, but to stick to this time I've taken for myself & see what happens if I do it differently.
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For me, hexagram 46 - pushing upwards, is always reassuring, with it's gradual growth, just let the grass grow! It tells me "don't worry, bigger things happening slower, you'll get there! You'll be lifted by everything else rising"
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This man, it is so hard to pull away, I have to distract myself away, but then things like this happen! I've had meditations where he pops in, he materializes! 2 years after I met him, on the same day, I bumped into him in the capital city, where I don't live (odds of that? )... Its constant, this stuff, and all the mirroring, stray swap thoughts etc. Often getting hexagram 41 re contact ,lately felt like a sacrifice on my part to contact him, gp beyond ego or personality. Of course, if I did happiness afterwards & knowledge of mirroring, he's dealing with court & receipts & I have a headache, he's very stressed & though peaceful I can't rest etc... but also 41: empty it out, release, let go, simplify, reduction, reduce it . I was grand with all the serendipidy & synchronicity in the past, but this year it's been so difficult, & he's been so harsh, and he attacked it, blamed me on it. Hesaid that 'there were many weird events he wanted to forget with me, strange things, that I was trying to force him to do things, that it was like attack, I wanted too much & he couldn't hold it'.
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This really shocked and hurt me, because all my contact with him, well it was all really about him, I never involved him in my stuff, I really didn't ask for much… I would get wound up trying to explain things to him this year. I don't know what that was, it was weird too. That's another reason I pulled back. But I NEVER forced him to do anything! It was deliberate policy.
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But I do know stuff about him & then last year and a half, he's been going through a divorce. I know that's making him ratty, she was having an affair for years & years & planned it for years. I warned him years ago, I saw all the signs. I know that might freak him out, that I knew that. It shocked me quite a bit when it happened, actually... that I was so right, that's scary! And that she was going to fleeeeece him, wring him dry, that too, I saw that! & I did try to warn him, that's what he means by forcing him, I got loud, thinking, I hadn't been loud before. That's when I saw a rift. I told him "A sword cannot chop water, please don't get caught into this fight, please step back, & you won't lose anything" But he didn't listen, he got freaked with me (but I got a bit crazy about it, so worried for him) But he did get caught into the fights & I did say one day "please step back from the battle & take some space, this fight will become a black hole that will consume you & everything else" But then I did feel very over involved & he wasn't listening anyway, so step back
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However, there are things to consider about the arguments, Yeah I was definitely hyper, emotional, he was definitely pushing my buttons then & there is the whole business thing looming in the background. On the converse, he did that to me, wrapped me into things, discussed my 'future'… walled me into the middle of awkward situations (I didn't bring him into a business where his creepy friend was undermining me & idea stealing & all that narc crap & narc is friends with his wife. All the suspicions & intimations that we were having an affair... but I wouldn't do that, have sex with a man living with somebody else).
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It shocked me because I thought that mirroring was something special, magical, that brings benefits to both people, you know it's Just something nice that draws friends together? But I thought he was aware that these synchronous events etc, are beyond people, I never ever thought he would blame me for it! Ha, I don't have that power! No-does.
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Difficult situation, I think too intense, we are both trying to get out, but he still owes me money. I really really am trying to step back peacefully because I need to do it that way, with peace.
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I know, with all these meetings & signs & whatnot the universe is saying, yes this guy is significant, don't discount him, don't paint him out of the picture... And, despite feeling hurt, sidelined, shoved away at times, I do feel compassionate, but there is a line. I have to shift, stop doing this hurtful pattern right now. Better to appreciate & wish well from a distance. There are other things I want to change and move with in my life too. There is a lot I am so very grateful for from this deep connection… I've learned a lot, gained a lot, grown, done amazing things.
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Throwing this out there, how do ye see moving out of a difficult connection like this in the light of Hexagram 62,Already Complete, the chaos of transition into something new, (but watch that kettle on the fire!)

hex 56.3 to 35

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I am getting very negative behaviour from one of the school mums at my children's school. I asked i ching how I should deal with her behaviour. I am not sure what this reading is saying exactly. What is the danger referred to in line three.
I like this school mum and this change in her behaviour has really upset me.

Kicking in my door

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My male neighbor who lives with a woman who may be either his wife or his girlfriend keeps trying to force me to open the door to him. At first I was going to do it but decided to refuse. Then one morning he claimed he had to speak to me and that it was against the law to refuse to let him in. I refused to open the door and he began kicking the door with all his might. I thought he was going to break the door down. I should have called the police. I was extremely traumatized and lay frozen for about 2 days. Then I went to the police who interrogated me for 3 hours as if I had done something wrong. They really mistreated me and accused me of trying to use them as my personal security service. They told me to call the police of my own country! They accused me of trying to treat them as inferiors. I got no sympathy and was really shocked and horrified. Then when it was time to leave, I couldn’t because the whole building was locked down. They were in a standoff with a couple whose 12 year old child they had beaten. No one could leave or enter and they acted as though they were going to shoot the man and woman down. As for me, they refused to take an official complaint and only took a non-criminal statement if the facts with no associated accusation after I informed them that I was going to write to the (equivalent of) district attorney. Because the police of this country seem criminally deranged, I have decided not to contact them in the future.
My door is permanently damaged. I now suffer from post traumatic stress disorder from this and other agressions by my psychopathic male neighbors. I live in fear that someone will kill me here. I asked:
Why did this neighbor try to kick my door in?
32.4->46?
Line 4
'In the field, no game.'

Why won’t the police in this country help me?
30.2.3.6->54
Line 2
'Clear golden light.
From the source, good fortune.'

Line 3
'In the clear light of the setting sun,
If not beating a pot and singing,
Then you will be making the lament of great old age.
Pitfall.'

Line 6
'The king uses this to march out,
There are honours.
He executes the chief – the captives are not so ugly.
Not a mistake.'

How much danger am I in?
5.2.3.5->24

Line 2
'Waiting on the sands, there are small words.
In the end, good fortune.'

Line 3
'Waiting in the bog invites the arrival of robbers.'

Line 5
'Waiting with food and drink.
Constancy, good fortune.'

I feel that they reading don’t touch on the desperation of the situation. Anyone have any insight?

About a new relationship: 7 changing to 32

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I am a long time already in a dysfunctional relationship. I met a guy who says he wants to be with me. But I do not trust him completely, although I do have some feelings. I have been seeing him 2-3 months, and he knows my situation.
So I asked the oracle and got this. Any ideas about interpretation?
Thanks in advance

Blog post: Advice from Zhu Xi

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One of many interesting things I found in Richard J. Smith’s The I Ching: a biography was an account of Zhu Xi’s approach to divination.
Zhu Xi (1120-1200) wrote firmly of Yi’s identity as an oracle, not just a ‘book of wisdom’. In addition to creating the yarrow method we use now, he also prescribed considerable ritual to be used with it. There are ritual ablutions, a dedicated divination room and table that you approach from the east, passing the yarrow stalks through the incense smoke… it’s all a long way away from ‘visit web page, click button’.
What caught my attention most of all was the quasi-prayer to be recited before the reading, especially its last line:
‘Availing of you, great milfoil, with constancy, I, [name], because of [topic], wonder if I may express my doubts and concerns to the spiritual powers. Whether the news is auspicious or inauspicious, involves a gain or a loss, remorse or humiliation, sorrow or anxiety, you alone with your divine intelligence can provide clear information.’
(Emphasis added.) There are echoes of this prayer in an invocation recorded in the 19th century. Prior to consultation, the temple diviner addresses the gods:
‘A man is now present who is harassed with anxieties, and is unable to solve his doubts and perplexities. We can only look to the gods to instruct us as to what is or is not to take place.’
Here is the same core assumption: the querent has a problem that only the oracle can solve. And although I’ve never counselled anyone on the correct placement of an incense burner relative to their yarrow stalks, this is advice I recognise. Yijing divination is for things we cannot know in other, more ‘normal’ ways. If you can learn the answer by…

  • consulting a doctor
  • buying a pregnancy test
  • consulting a lawyer
  • using a search engine
  • making a phone call
  • …and so on…

…then do that. The answer you get this way will be altogether more use: less open to interpretation, more likely to give you peace of mind, easier to act on.
Having said that… yes, I fail to take this advice all the time, too – or at least, I take it with a liberal pinch of interpretation…
For example, a month ago I had a great chunk of enamel fall off a back tooth. After a week or so of treating this with great TLC I was unsure whether the tooth was a) hardening and stabilising or b) decaying – and dealt with my uncertainty by asking Yi what was going on in there.
My friends enquired why (on earth) I did not go to my dentist, who could obviously answer this question far more straightforwardly. Well… because I had a whole lot of ‘doubts and perplexities’ along the lines of, ‘The dentist will want to drill and refill, but the drilling would damage the tooth’s capacity for self-repair, but that’s only relevant if it even has any chance of repairing itself in its current state, and if it hasn’t then I should get the dentist to re-fill it quick before I lose the whole tooth…’ and so on. Caught in that kind of endless loop, it feels natural to me to ask Yi. However, unless you share my strong fondness for dentinal tubules, my hesitation over seeing a dentist is going to appear quite insane.
A more familiar example would be the wise advice:
‘Never mind asking Yi how he feels about you, talk to him!’
This is generally very good advice indeed, but if someone wants to have an idea what’s going on before taking the plunge into such an excruciatingly difficult conversation, can you blame them?
The basic principle that we should ask Yi only when we cannot resolve our anxieties any other way is a good one; applying some logic and old-fashioned common sense (which, as my mother’s mother told her, isn’t common) to the issue might prevent much confusion, and much wear-and-tear on the yarrow stalks.
But really, this isn’t just about where to find good information: it’s about knowing how best to change our inner state. What can bring you sufficient confidence and peace of mind to move forward, engage with the issue and get on with life? Sometimes that’ll be an expert opinion, and sometimes the kind of change of perspective that only a reading can create.

About a missing cat

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Friends, my beloved cat Sailor, a neutered 8years old black cat, is missing from home. He loves spending time under the bushes of the front neighbour's garden being by himself, he never went really far from home (as far as I know of). Now I’m too tense, too anxious, too scared, too heartbroken and too tired to be able now to make any sense from the Yi Jing readings I’ve done over the last few days. :weep::weep::weep: Could you help me? Forgive me the too many questions. Know that they have been asked over several days, the last ones when I didn’t know anymore whether I was coming or going.

My first question has been: “Sailor is not answering to the evening call. Will he be back?”
The response has been 61.5 > 41 Good, I thought, tomorrow morning I’ll find him at the door, but it didn’t go that way.

So, the second day since he was missing I asked: “What is going on with Sailor?” 14 unchanging
This response confused me, I couldn’t make any sense out of it. What could “great possession” mean in this situation? I searched for him without any result and could not understand what I needed to do, whether be proactive and actively search for him or let things evolve and wait-just-wait.

Then I asked: “What should I be doing to have Sailor come back home?” 36 unchanging
Ok, I understood I needed to keep going with the search. But I must say that the appearance of this second unchanging hex made me feel awkward. I kept searching for him during the day and the following one, but no news or signs of Sailor.

So I asked: “Where should I be looking for Sailor?” 30.1.2.3 > 64
Again, I could not relate to adhering, radiance, light, fire… I looked up for the meaning of the trigrams and amongst many I found eye and dry wood which got my antennae twitching. Close by there’s a wooden bridge made in a shape that resemble an eye. Bingo, I thought! I spent quite some time walking the whole area calling him, but nothing. I have to say that I knew he was not going to pop up from under a bush because if he would have been around he would’ve come home. I’d also prepared some signs with photos of him and spread them in the neighbourhood but I felt that I was actually groping in the dark.

And this is the moment in which I started loosing it and began asking question already asked, (forgive me).

Will Sailor come back home? 58.1.2.5 > 16, which looks good but for the fifth line, incomprehensible to me, and anyhow still no Sailor.

Where is Sailor? 26 unchanging. Is he being restrained? By whom or what? How can I use this information in order to find him? And another unchanging hex…

One evening I was walking under the rain looking for him when I felt overwhelmed. I didn’t know where to go or what more to do. So right there, at the corner of that street I asked: “What’s appropriate for me to do right now to find Sailor? 32.2.3.6 Totally confusing response.

The following day again I ask: What’s appropriate for me to do at this point? 55.4 > 36
I understand that I need to join in with someone with whom I feel affinity. So, still floating in mid air I swear that the next one would be my last question and ask: “What can I do to find Sailor?” 55.5 > 49, the invitation to look for the advice of a wise person. This brought me to connect with an animal communicator and now to you. The animal communicator will connect with Sailor soon, and I hope you will give me your wise counselling today.

Thanks for your loving attention. Hugs to you all. :hug:

Hexagram 18.2.4.6.>62

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I live in a country that I do not like very much. My boyfriend is from this country. I don't particularly hate it but I don't love it. I feel very isolated here and the people (in my experience) seem to make it worse. I told my partner this, I didn't want to offend him I just wanted to tell him how I felt. How did he take it this message?I got 18.2.4.6. changing to 62.The hex is called corruption and speaks about repairing something damaged? Line 2, makes me feel he will make light of things, Line 4 maybe he will try to make me feel better? Line 6 talks about withdrawing...maybe he will let me be? Thank you.

People knotted cords......

33.3 > 12 Puzzled

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Hi everyone,

Recently I met a person online and he has some fame online, we know each other's presence in some ways because of another famous friend but we never talk before. One day he suddenly direct message me in social media and we began talking and he's very friendly. He keeps trying to initiate conversation and asks me a lot of questions about myself, whenever i post something he would also comment on it to continue the conversation. It continued on for a week already. I'm attached anyway so I'm quite puzzled. And of course I'm afraid if this keeps on it'll mess up my feelings.

I asked I-Ching, what is his purpose in getting close to me? I received 33.3 to 12 as the answer.

What does it mean in this context?

About Moral and Immoral questions

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Hello there!

I was recently reading the Sorrell's I Ching book (the auto-biographical "real-life stories" behind each hexagram), and was a bit surprised to see how, for some time, they used the IC in order to make money in the stock market, trading goods.

This made me question myself about the morals behind using the IC in order to make money (I have since read another thread in here about the morals of questioning some other person's feelings, but wanted to push this a bit further, or in another direction).

I really want to point out first of all that I'm not making a judgement here, I'm not saying that it is wrong, I am just trying to understand if there is a "rule" about how our own morals affect the readings (for example, maybe it was working for them because they planned to use that money for a good cause? and if someone else was asking out of sheer greed, maybe it wouldn't have worked?). Proof that I'm not judging: I've also asked finance-related questions (even in this forum!), about my company (that sells my art), but since it is related to my passion and helps me make a living out of it that didn't feel 'wrong' to me. However trading goods in the stock market (someone invariably will lose the money that you earn) didn't seem right to me, but again, maybe it depends on how it sounds to the person asking the question?

So my point is: there are questions that we would all agree are immoral to ask to the IC, but there are others that are not so clear. What is the common ground that all questions should share, morally speaking?
I have this feeling that IC works (like everything in the universe) with whatever vibrates. Passion vibrates, love vibrates, ambition vibrates. Money is just an object, it is dead, per se, it doesn't have a vibration, so the IC will not deal well with that. Also, greed is a negative feeling, I guess that also vibrates negatively and wouln't be taken in to account correctly by the Universe, or the IC... well that is just my 5cents about that, what are your opinions?

Thank you

Hex 45.1.5 to 51

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I got the above reading when i asked for insights regarding contacting a certain person.

I am clueless about the interpretation. Please help

1 < 2

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ask: what am I for him? and I received 1 changing to 2. I know that the i ching wants to tell me something. because it is a difficult hexagram and I received it a week ago with the same question. I did not give importance at that time I thought I was very confused at the time of asking. I need your help it's about my daughter's father. That was horrible with me. How can i ching give me this hexagram when I ask this and right with it?

Hexagram 25.4 What to do about my teen daughter's tantrums (after 29uc)

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I received this Hexagram 24.4 after a difficult day with (mostly) my daughter. There is a lot of tension and chaos in the house the last few months, due to the youngest boy deciding to live here permanently, instead of a previous arrangement of half the week. More on this situation here. It has caused a bit of chaos, and she is *NOT* happy. A lot of house rules and habits have been changing, and I have not always being finding it easy to keep up the changes. There is resistance from all 3 children (and sometimes it seems the cats too!).
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However, today, she has been downright ignorant, rude and abusive to him, and myself.
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I received 29uc this morning, and this evening, contemplating it, I found this thread very helpful. Of course, I can see the repeating chasms now as also plunging into the fray with the arguments between the kids, and maintaining the line. ('Holding fast to the heart'). I was more than a bit scared to see this Hexa unchanging, but I can chime with leighl that it is just something that you keep moving through:
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I don't fully share your sentiment that this is a negative hexagram. I have been going through some struggles lately, and for me this hex was saying that there may be more pitfalls to come in the coming week, but I should move through whatever comes my way with presence.


However, the issue of my daughters tantrums, abusive words and behaviour to myself and her brother are not ok. Very far from it!
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So I asked Yi about my best approach re this, because it has been destabilising me, and also allowing her little brother to use it as an excuse to get away with things:
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24:'Without entanglement.Creating success from the source, constancy bears fruit.One who is not upright commits blunders,And it is fruitless to have a direction to go.'
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'There can be constancy – no mistake.'
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This says to me - maintain the line, continue, but don't blame yourself for your daughter's behaviour! She can really do that, say it's my fault, make it seem like my fault. She has a very fiery and strong nature! I do admire her strength, it will stand to her one day, but not when she is being a bully, or a spoilt diva! I have other issues with her, re: late to school due to make-up routines, mess everywhere etc.
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I think it also means 'don't get diverted' - diverted into her or her brothers lines of arguments. (that is another way they try to subvert the house rules)
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It's like an encouraging ​little boost from Yi too - as in stay above the situation, you're doing just fine - don't get caught in the day to day.
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Any thoughts or advice?

Blog post: Lost property

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A short story

In typical Yi style, this is a very short story:
‘Traveller in a place to stay,
Gains property and an axe.
My heart is not glad.’
‘Subtly penetrating under the bed,
Losing your property and axe.
Constancy, pitfall.’
These are lines 56.4 and 57.6, and they have a direct textual parallel: gaining then losing property and axe (or axe-money). (Ignore the way I translated it with ‘your’ in 57.6 – it’s the same three words, ‘one’s property axe’, in both lines.)
Oddly enough, I only started paying attention to this because it was pointed out by Geoffrey Redmond – the one who maintains that ‘the unit of meaning is the phrase’ in the Zhouyi. He writes of 57.6,
‘This line refers back to the traveler’s money that was lost in the preceding hexagram, 56.4. It is unusual for themes in a hexagram to continue in another one. Most likely, this phrase was simply misplaced from the preceding hexagram.’
So naturally, I assume that the phrase wasn’t misplaced, and see where this takes me.
In the first place, I think this is a story, not just a contrast. To start with, there is no small-scale structural relationship (lines, trigrams) between these two lines to suggest a parallel or contrast; they’re simply adjacent in the Sequence. (And this part of the Sequence contains more than one reflective pattern revolving around themes of history, culture and transmission.)
From 56 to 57, the Xugua (‘Sequence’ Wing) says,
‘The traveller has no place where he is accepted, and so Subtly Penetrating follows. Subtly Penetrating means entering in.’
The traveller at 56.4 has only a temporary shelter; 57.6 is going further and further in.
Simply reading the two lines as a story already casts light on them: my heart is not glad, in 56.4, because I have an inkling of the loss to come. (This is one of those striking, resonant uses of ‘my’ that creates some distance from the protagonist of the line. Perhaps it is the oracle’s heart not glad, or a wiser narrator’s.) And if 56.4 is anticipating, then 57.6 might be remembering – coming from 56.4, it was never entirely, decisively confident of owning property and axe, and goes endlessly digging for certainty.

Line pathways and connections

Let’s keep exploring…

56.4 and the tides of history

56.4 changes to Hexagram 52, Stilling – naturally enough, since this ‘place to stay’ is where the traveller comes to a halt. The name of Hexagram 52 shows a solitary human figure, turning away. This is stilling as a response or reaction to movement, not as a permanent state.
Reading across the paired lines…
‘Feng is flooded with darkness
At midday, seeing a froth of light.
Your right arm broken,
Not a mistake.’
‘Traveller in a place to stay,
Gains property and an axe.
My heart is not glad.’
…the traveller’s situation reflects the person stymied by events in 55.3 – in the dark, not seeing where to go, incapacitated. To me, the lines seem to share a sense of helplessness, being overtaken by events. The traveller hasn’t quite been overtaken yet, but there’s an uneasy sense that he will be, soon. It’s his property and place to stay today, but it could be someone else’s tomorrow.
In practice, I usually get 56.4 when there’s a creeping anxiety and a fear of losing ground – as if I might need to run faster to stay in the same place. It’s almost as if having whatever-it-is now creates the possibility of losing it. I might need to pause and ask myself why I’m not more contented.
The inner lines for this pathway – 52.4 and 51.3 – don’t have the same disquiet:
‘Stilling your self,
No mistake.’
‘Shock revives, revives.
Shock moves without blunder.’
In both of these, there’s a sense ‘things are unfolding as they should’. There may be shock, but it’s timely, it’s doing its work; still yourself, no mistake, no need for you to be running about. And in fact, 55.3 has the same insight: ‘Your right arm broken – not a mistake.‘ Events unfold, there’s not a lot you can do about them, and this is all as it should be. 56.4 is the only line in the pathway that hasn’t got this message – perhaps because attaining shelter, property and axe is the full extent of the traveller’s ambitions?

57.6 and the bottomless Well

56.4 changes to 52, whose name in Chinese shows a human figure. 57.6 changes to 48, the Well – something much bigger.
‘The Well. Moving the city, not moving the well.
Without loss, without gain,
They come and go, the well wells.
Almost reaching, but the rope does not yet draw water from the well,
Breaking one’s clay jug,
Pitfall.’
The well requires human effort, but it also dwarfs us. People come and go, but the water is always there, whether you reach it or not. Human efforts, and decisions, and property, are ‘relativised’: even cities are moved, but not wells. The well construction might belong to everyone, but the water table is timeless, and no-one can own it.
57.6 is joined with 48.6/47.1:
‘The well gathers,
Don’t cover it.
There is truth and confidence,
Good fortune from the source.’
‘Buttocks oppressed with a wooden stick,
Entering into a gloomy valley,
For three years, meeting no-one.’
– lines bringing an awareness that the water table might be over your head. ‘Penetrating under the bed’ comes to mean digging endlessly into something bottomless and shapeless. If 56.4 is hanging on by its fingernails to property and self-determination, 57.6 loses its grip and falls into the endless underground waters. You can’t hold onto ‘your stuff’ in the well, because the whole idea of ownership loses its meaning.
For me, 57.6 tends to mean that I’m over-interpreting other people’s behaviour and worrying too much about their opinions. (I also had it once to describe a day when I got somewhat lost on the London Underground – chiefly because I kept asking directions instead of looking at a map.) ‘What will they think of me?’ is certainly a bottomless, endless question; ‘How to please all the people, all the time?’ is another one, and a good place to lose my grip on my own convictions and have them washed away. I think the line has a more general application, though: it’s about anything that relativises you and yours by putting it in a much bigger context. That could be other people’s opinions, or the passage of time, or even the vastness of nature.
The paired line, 58.1, is very much the ‘other side of the coin’:
‘Subtly penetrating under the bed,
Losing your property and axe.
Constancy, pitfall.’
‘Responsive opening: good fortune’
Subtly penetrating under the bed comes (I think) of a desire to be completely aligned, in complete harmony, with no friction or discord. When the same desire for alignment is turned around and directed outward towards someone specific – as in conversation – then it is good. ‘Responsive’ here is the same word that describes the crane’s young in 61.2, who ‘respond in harmony’ to her call. Its meanings include ‘singing in harmony’ and ‘composing a poem in reply’. So this line’s a healthy extrovert, in comparison to 57.6’s neurotic introvert.

Stories we might tell

What stories might we tell around 56.4 and 57.6? As many as there are readings with each line, of course… but one that seems to me to be murmuring along in the background is that of Zhou and Shang. Hai, the original ‘traveller’ of 56, was a Shang ancestor. His descendants would found a great dynasty – but it would only be a temporary shelter, for they were to lose the Mandate and the Zhou would receive it.
The traveller has his place to stay and things he owns, but there’s still an atmosphere of unease. Someone (that mysterious speaker whose heart is not glad) is aware that events move on, and just because you have this now doesn’t mean you will be able to hold onto it forever.
The protagonist of 57.6 is so intent on exploring the depths – of time, or the collective reality, or the riches of nature – that she finds she has nothing of her own. Scaling up and scaling up, she loses herself from view.
This region of the Sequence (49/50, 54.5, 55…) concentrates on Zhou history – not the ins and outs of military strategy, but rather how they received, owned and implemented their Mandate. This little story of lost property might be asking, sotto voce, ‘Oh, so the Mandate is yours, is it? On what scale?’
The broader perspective that makes your personal experience just one part of the whole can be useful: it allows you to create harmonious exchanges, in 58.1. And it can be reassuring, as in 55.3 and 51.3: I may be stuck, but the wheels of history are turning as they should. Or it can be disconcerting: I have this now, but for how long? And ultimately, if you zoom out (or penetrate in) far enough, your experience and ownership disappears altogether. I think of the idea that people ‘own’ ancient woodland, or of ‘owning’ a ‘cello whose lifespan is measured in centuries. It’s laughable, of course – but also essential: someone has to keep the ‘cello safe from the central heating this winter.

Authentic Progress

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Auntie M. had a freeloading user of a boyfriend.
He lived off of her for years, never paying rent or paying for food. She directly told him to leave on many occassions.
He would just look at her and not say anything, until she tired herself out in protestation. Granted, she never called the police, but tried many other tactics to get rid of him.
The man had no shame or dignity.

She exploded in anger one day after finding some heroin in his belongings. He was away from the apartment, and she called him screaming that he would never be allowed in her home again. She had someone bring him his belongings, so he would have no excuse to come to her home again.

I talked with her a few days after these events and she wondered if he was going to try to weasle his way back into her home. I did a reading about it, got: 53.5.6 (15)

Authentic Progress.
line 5: it took her years, but she finally did it.
line 6: the relationship was over.

I congratulated her and told her all she had to do now was keep her door locked. She was very happy, saying this man had been like a lead weight around her neck.
He's been gone for three weeks now (the prior longest was two days.) ,
and she has been on a few dates with an old flame.

What would be the benefit? 29.1 - 60

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I'm looking at a website that promotes a raw food diet. For $247 they offer a raw food "kit" a month's supply of lots of different good for you stuff. I asked what would be the benefit to me if I were to purchase this collection of health supplements? I received hexagram 29.1 - hexagram 60. Danger /Limitation. My first thought is that well, it would do no harm as in Limited Danger, which certainly doesn't inspire me. So I'm wondering if anyone sees a different interpretation here. Maybe taking these supplements limit danger, like they build up one's immune system? I guess I really want to know if it's worth the price. I mean, it may improve one's immune system but $247 worth? Maybe I should ask a different question. How should I phrase it so it's not a yes or no question?

Szturn into Capricorn

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The planet Saturn entered it's home sign Capricorn yesterday. You might want to make a note of where you are, what you're doing now as a future reference. You can google Saturn into Capricorn and get ideas of how this might manifest.
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